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« Reply #70 on: February 27, 2006, 07:42:45 PM »

Well then, I'd like to hear your theory as to why we play music.


Well let's eliminate some possibilities.

It can't be for chicks, cause quite frankly the two front men are sending the wrong vibe out (it screams "pillow biters") and I doubt Jaba can even find his willy.

It can't be for excercise, because well that ones obvious.

It can't be for fame, 5 people can only spread the word so far.

It couldn't be for money, it seems that it's either pro-bono or it's back to another weekend of cock-sucking and potato chips.

And it certainly couldn't be to progress as musicians,  well, that one's obvious too.


Well I'm all out of ideas.
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« Reply #71 on: February 27, 2006, 11:43:47 PM »

Lol.  Maybe its to be the self proclaimed "best band in regina." fuuuuck.
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« Reply #72 on: February 28, 2006, 03:34:34 AM »

I'm finding it really weird that the younger people are more for staying, while an overwhelming majority of the vetrans on the scene are more for going...

And I know I'm going to end up eating my words here, but I think that age may have something to do with it.  When you're younger, you're still seeing things for the first time, you have a lot less responsibilities, and quite frankly, you've got the energy not only to watch the bands, but to be the opening act at the show and be in the pit for the rest of it.  There's still the romantic notion of (as someone put it) the utopia of the scene and the brotherhood of musicianship.

But I can see where everyone else is coming from, having seen everything, seen it rehashed, not having the energy and having to work a full-time job.  That being said, and having seen over 1000 performances in the last 10 years (by my best guess) what keeps me coming back is that youthful exhuberance.  Seeing people smiling and having a great time at something that I love more than anything.  I don't get out to see as many shows as I used to, even though I put them on now (cheap plug: Gate and Chemical Horizon at the Gaslight April 14 Smiley ). 

However, I don't see this as a taboo.  But I can see how some people would get offended.  I mean, say for a low turnout show, it's still better to play to the opening bands and their girlfriends than no one at all.

As per Tracy, I don't know you, but I do respect your decision to not like live music yet play in a band.  I sure as hell don't understand it, but I guess I can respect it.
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« Reply #73 on: February 28, 2006, 09:33:14 AM »

holl-lly fuck you guys...



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« Reply #74 on: February 28, 2006, 09:43:52 AM »

Heya Bob, thanks for understanding.  And just to clarify, it's not that I don't like LIVE music.  I guess a better way to put it would be I don't like *too* loud music in confined, small spaces, like clubs.  It doesn't matter if it's live, like shows at the Exchange, or pre-recorded at dance clubs, like 2044.

Just thought I'd clarify!

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« Reply #75 on: February 28, 2006, 10:29:43 AM »

I will frequently throw out over-the-top, sarcastic generalizations that are intended to give people a hard time and press their buttons a little.  I try to do it in good fun, but sometimes other peope (who usually don't know me) take my comments a little to seriously.  However, yesterday I got personal, and I don't like doing that to others.

So while I originally didn't appreciate being called a whiner and a pussy when all I was trying to do was offer some insight into the original topic, I would still like to apologize for my reaction.
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« Reply #76 on: February 28, 2006, 10:48:28 AM »

I don't think mark should be the one apologizing.  OnceFallen don't talk about respect when almost everyone of your has been bashing bands or individuals.  I  may sound pissed off....and its cause I kinda am after reading your posts.  Who are you to talk shit about people that I am quite certain you have never talked to in your life.  Don't bash the people in these bands, I would call your comments pretty cheap and offensive. 

Secondly, I play drums in Activate, and this is directed at one of your earlier posts.  Throughout your posts you have talked about playing metal because of your love for metal. And how you shouldn't play in a band if you don't love the music....then you go on to say that we should rethink the way way we write songs???
So we are writing music from our hearts, yet you feel that we should rethink the way we write music because YOU don't like it.  HAHAHA.  sorry......buts thats pretty much retarded. 
But this is beyond the point....stop being an asshole.  Thats it.  Don't expect respect for your band if your going to be a cunt.
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« Reply #77 on: February 28, 2006, 11:10:26 AM »

Tracy's post is good...but not needed.  There is absolutely no reason for her to have to clarify or answer to anyone about her personal life/schedule outside of her band.

Anyone who thinks they have the right to question anyone's musical tastes outside of the band they perform in...and then bash the hell out of them can fuck right off and die.

This entire thread is an embarrassment to our scene as a whole.

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« Reply #78 on: February 28, 2006, 11:24:30 AM »

effin niaomi.
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« Reply #79 on: February 28, 2006, 11:26:10 AM »

I agree, Tracy shouldn't have to explain herself like that.
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« Reply #80 on: February 28, 2006, 11:36:36 AM »

Hey, it's been a long time since the scene had someone we could point at and whisper about at shows.  Malformed will appreciate the spotlight being turned away for a bit.
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« Reply #81 on: February 28, 2006, 11:44:07 AM »

Malformed will appreciate the spotlight being turned away for a bit.

actually..that's all I had...you jerk
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« Reply #82 on: February 28, 2006, 11:59:28 AM »

I'm sure you'll get it back in no time. I know you!
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« Reply #83 on: February 28, 2006, 12:06:21 PM »

I'm sure you'll get it back in no time. I know you!

'cause we all know he's an attention whore...
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« Reply #84 on: February 28, 2006, 01:11:56 PM »

Ahem ... the term is cum-sponge.
Nobody can ever take that away from you Malf !
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« Reply #85 on: February 28, 2006, 01:13:35 PM »

Tracy's post is good...but not needed.  There is absolutely no reason for her to have to clarify or answer to anyone about her personal life/schedule outside of her band.

Anyone who thinks they have the right to question anyone's musical tastes outside of the band they perform in...and then bash the hell out of them can fuck right off and die.

This entire thread is an embarrassment to our scene as a whole.



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« Reply #86 on: February 28, 2006, 01:15:10 PM »

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Ahem ... the term is cum-sponge.
Nobody can ever take that away from you Malf !

I heard through the grapevine that Bounty is willing to pay top dollar for a sample of his hair. The absorbent properties are said to be, and I quote, "worth studying".
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« Reply #87 on: February 28, 2006, 01:21:09 PM »

Nobody can ever take me away from you Malf !

faggot vegetarian!!!


I heard through the grapevine that Bounty is willing to pay top dollar for a sample of his hair. The absorbent properties are said to be, and I quote, "worth studying".

I always thought they were sending me free paper towel samples to hint at me having a masturbation problem, i had no idea it was to lure me into a business venture.
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« Reply #88 on: February 28, 2006, 01:56:28 PM »

You're rich BEEYATCH!
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« Reply #89 on: February 28, 2006, 03:06:37 PM »

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This entire thread is an embarrassment to our scene as a whole.

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Am I completely wrong in seeing this type of behaviour as the ultimate "fuck you" to the other bands that are playing the show?  I'd like to hear what people think, and if I'm completely off track in this line of thinking, I encourage people to explain how only sticking around long enough to play your own set is anything other than disrespectful.

This was the basic reasoning behind my post.  It was not to single out ANYBODY or cause anyone to have to make excuses and go into details about their personal lives.  It was a question of "this is what it looks like TO ME, in my opinion, but if I'm wrong, I would like to be given other perspectives."  I clearly indicated that I realize I could be completely wrong/off base with coming to that conclusion.  I was not the one to come out and say "this band sucks and this is the person I'm talking about."  And when that DID happen, I still attempted to make it clear that although the post was a result of seeing it happen recently with the band that ended up being named, it wasn't meant to be a personal attack on that specific band.

I asked, "am I completely wrong," and received many answers from people indicating that in a lot of cases, I (and other people who have come to the same conclusions) AM wrong, and shouldn't jump to those conclusions.  How does that mean this thread, asking this question, is an embarrassment to the scene?  To ask a question based on something I felt strongly about, in order to be given some clarification and a better understanding, is an embarrassment?

The fact that the thread became so full of personal attacks and blame is unfortunate, but that clearly wasn't my intent in posting it. 
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« Reply #90 on: February 28, 2006, 03:37:05 PM »

* This is not directed to Nairobi *

Quit complaining, it's pathetic, this is the internet.

Not everyone likes everyone else.

The internet was designed for two things,  Porn and Insults. 

Anyone who uses it for anything else should probably come get their mom to read through their posts and make sure their spelling is all correct and the content is appropriate.  Because you wouldn't want "mommy's little angel" to have a bad experience on the scary internet.

As far as people not respecting my band because of shit on this board.  If someone makes their decision about a band based on internet forums and not the music than that person should be taken out back of the exchange, where they do not belong, and they should be shot.

This thread is the furthest thing from the problem, if anything it's the seriousness that you people take this forum.  So what, I don't like a band and I said it.  I still gave them props for being mad guitar players.  That's alot more positive than I usually am.

Fucking pathetic

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« Reply #91 on: February 28, 2006, 03:38:24 PM »

The internet was designed for two things,  Porn and Insults. 

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« Reply #92 on: February 28, 2006, 03:39:30 PM »

Dear OnceFallen,
It's "mommy's."

grin

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« Reply #93 on: February 28, 2006, 03:42:22 PM »

Dear Nairobi

What are you talking about, that's what I wrote.

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« Reply #94 on: February 28, 2006, 03:48:24 PM »

Dear OF,

If by "wrote" you mean "typed."

Pffft.

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« Reply #95 on: February 28, 2006, 03:53:22 PM »

Nope, by "wrote" i meant shut the fuck up.

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« Reply #96 on: February 28, 2006, 04:01:03 PM »

Dear Nairobi

What are you talking about, that's what I shut the fuck up.

OF

Now that just sounds awkward.
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« Reply #97 on: February 28, 2006, 04:03:07 PM »

How does that mean this thread, asking this question, is an embarrassment to the scene?

Starting the thread wasn't an embarrassment...wha t it became was an embarrassment.  I never said it was YOUR fault for asking...I simply felt that it was an issue that didn't need to go as far as it has.

This is what I saw.  Basically the thread was saying, "Tracy from Activate always leaves right after she's done performing, why?"  The answer is that she doesn't have to give an answer.  If certain people get offended then let them be offended.  IF the gril's got shit to do the she's got shit to do and doesn't have to ask permission from the scene to see if it's okay.

The fact that people instantaneously become assholes without cause is the problem here.  I do realise that "this is the internet and not everyone likes everyone else" but grow up already and quit beating each other up over stupid issues.

And to Naomi: I don't question your intentions with this thread.  Obviously you thought this out initially and just wanted to clarify.  Fine.  I just found it unappealing that fingers were pointed and bands were bashed for no reason.  That's not the kind of shit that needs to go on here.
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« Reply #98 on: February 28, 2006, 04:05:20 PM »

So what, I don't like a band and I said it.  I still gave them props for being mad guitar players.

So you're saying that I'm a mad guitar player?  Aww shucks... you shouldn't have.
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« Reply #99 on: February 28, 2006, 04:07:26 PM »

Starting the thread wasn't an embarrassment...wha t it became was an embarrassment.  I never said it was YOUR fault for asking...I simply felt that it was an issue that didn't need to go as far as it has.

This is what I saw.  Basically the thread was saying, "Tracy from Activate always leaves right after she's done performing, why?"  The answer is that she doesn't have to give an answer.  If certain people get offended then let them be offended.  IF the gril's got shit to do the she's got shit to do and doesn't have to ask permission from the scene to see if it's okay.

The fact that people instantaneously become assholes without cause is the problem here.  I do realise that "this is the internet and not everyone likes everyone else" but grow up already and quit beating each other up over stupid issues.

And to Naomi: I don't question your intentions with this thread.  Obviously you thought this out initially and just wanted to clarify.  Fine.  I just found it unappealing that fingers were pointed and bands were bashed for no reason.  That's not the kind of shit that needs to go on here.

Ah, okay.  Gotcha. 
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« Reply #100 on: February 28, 2006, 04:32:28 PM »

So you're saying that I'm a mad guitar player?  Aww shucks... you shouldn't have.

I was talking about the Activate guys,  I know you probably realize this because it was quite obvious I wasn't talking about you.

Serious dude, you know you're awful so shut the fuck up.
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« Reply #101 on: February 28, 2006, 05:06:04 PM »

holy muthafuck.  this thread got long and stupid in a real hurry.

Here's my take on a few things that I felt I should voice my opinion about, even though nobody cares.  First off, people are going to be in bands for different reasons.  Whatever their reasons are, they are theirs, and as long as they aren't pretending to be something they're not, who else's business is it?

For example, the reason I'm in Stillseed, is because I want to succeed in a mainstream market.  That's not the only reason, but that's a big part of it, otherwise the band wouldn't stress me out so much.  Do I love live music?  Absolutely, I live for it.  Have I ever skipped out of a show early?  Yes.  I've also shown up late.  Was that ever meant out of disrespect?  Negative.  I've been to a plethora of shows in the past 2 and a half years, I know what it's like to go in there and not enjoy yourself while some band that clearly doesn't interest you in the least does their awful best.

That said there's also a lot of bands out there that I haven't listened to a single song of before or after I've been to their live shows (generally Death Metal related), but I would be there again in a heartbeat.  That's kind of a sidetrack though.

The point I'm trying to make is that I agree there is a lot to be said about scene etiquette, especially if you're trying to draw support from the scene.  We don't live in a perfect world though.  Respect is an ever dwindling virtue in every area of society these days.  Sad reality.  So I wouldn't hold your breath.

As for bands and why people are in them, like I said, everyone's got their reasons.  In the case of The Radfords, I'm pretty sure they're content with what they're doing, and isn't that the point?  It is for them.

Every band has goals, some bands just want to make music they enjoy and not give a shit who comes out to see it.  Some bands want to actively pursue a career in the music industry one way or another.  This even applies to cover bands, much as I hate to say it.  The ultimate point has already been made clear, it's nobody else's business.  There's no right or wrong reason to be in a band.


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As far as people not respecting my band because of shit on this board.  If someone makes their decision about a band based on internet forums and not the music than that person should be taken out back of the exchange, where they do not belong, and they should be shot.


This quote makes me happy.  Basically because of the use of the Exchange in the explanation.  The Exchange rules, and anyone who does not get it, is not going to belong there.  At the end of the day that place is THE haven for local music, and should exemplify everything that local music should be about.  And usually does.  If that makes any sense.

If any of this post doesn't make sense, you are dumb.  that's the only possible explanation.
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« Reply #102 on: February 28, 2006, 05:57:20 PM »

Stop beating a dead horse, PP.
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« Reply #103 on: February 28, 2006, 06:15:22 PM »

you know, this trhead has made the last 2 days of work kinda fun

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« Reply #104 on: February 28, 2006, 07:00:48 PM »

I'd like to thank Ben for giving me some rolling papers a few news years shows back..was a good doobie
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